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Bespoke suit from Raja Fashions – Don’t do it
So I am getting married in a couple of weeks, just a small family get together with a few friends. I have been married before so this is a UK civil wedding. I am not a great suit wearer, so am not experienced in these things, but I decided to get a grey suit ( partly because in the tradition of weddings a grey morning suit is worn, so i was paying homage to this and partly because I am not a great believer in the groom attempting to outshine the bride with some garish outfit that gets everyone talking) and thought about getting an off the peg suit from Jermyn Street. Then I saw the advert for Raja fashions, the Hong Kong tailor who is selling bespoke suits at supposedly cut prices. To do this they measure you up in a hotel suite and your measurements are then sent to the tailor for the cutting and tailoring and the suit is sent to you by post.
I did wonder about this but there are many articles and press cuttings on their site at www.raja-fashions.com that promote the wonders of their suits. Many of the articles appear to be written by journalists that have gone along for a suit of their own, and boy did they get a good price, check out the one from the Spectator. This created an idea in my head that I was going to get a bargain. I was charged £500 for a lightweight cloth suit , and that is not in my mind a bargain, unless the suit fits like a kid glove and makes you feel like a million dollars….especially as the guy in the Spectator was charged 300 for a superior cloth.
Anyhow i let them measure me up, and now realise that al is in the measuring, you are in the hands of this guy, if he doesn’t get it right you are stuffed.
I explained to them that the suit was for my wedding. why is it when you do this whether its for clothes, food, drink or services, it inevitably makes you feel as if you are being charged more. e.g Why does a bouquet of flowers normally costing £25 suddenly cost £45? I digress. I explained I needed it quickly and they carefully measured me up, in fact 3 guys measured me over and over again.
A month or so later the suit arrived….the cloth did not look like the cloth I picked, it looked hard and had a shine, the cloth I picked looked soft and did not appear to have a shine. The jacket fitted reasonably well, ibut was a little short in the arms, the trousers were unfortunately a joke. All the time they spent measuring me, I think they forgot about the inside leg. Too tight in the waist, and believe me I am not a fatty, i go to the gym regularly and in the run up to the wedding have been very careful about looking good and feeling fit; then I noticed the trousers were also flapping round my ankles. Perhaps these were trousers for someone else? But no they were marked with my order number. Disaster! Now they do offer tailoring alterations once your suit arrives but as any hairdresser will tell you, you can always make it shorter but you can’t easily make it longer (ok ok you could have hair extensions sown in…but you know what I mean) and I am tight for time. So what to do.
Now when I first made my enquiry they answered within 15 hours, lets see what happens now and where we go from here, but I don’t recommend it and will probabaly have to buy an off the peg suit just in case. Too expensive, bad measuring, and lack of customer after sales support. Off the peg doesn’t seem so bad now.
So after 5 emails they came back to me offering to see me on the Monday (the 3rd) before my wedding, I must admit that they were very co operative, and arranged with Hong Kong to get a new pair of trousers made up pronto, and they measured me again, and all this before my wedding on Saturday. UPS parcels knocked on the door Thursday and hey presto a new pair of trousers. I must admit i looked good at my wedding, but I still feel ripped off. Why? because they claim to be offering measured suits at reasonable prices, nd this is plainly not the case. All the journalists that seemed to have written articles on them and had a suit made got theirs at a much better price. I even haggled over the price, which in my opinion is a bad thing, if there was room for manoeuvre, this means they were trying to over charge me in te first place, not a great place to build a relationship of trust.
If I use this kind of service again, it would be more than likely one where I measured myself,as they are springing up all over, definitely not Raja Fashions.
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6 Responses to “Bespoke suit from Raja Fashions – Don’t do it”
I have had bespoke suits made from all over the world (England, USA, Thailand, Hong Kong, Australia), I am very experienced. I would recommend that you go to an Australian bespoke tailor, not a tailor on a road trip. The reason is: 1. You only pay deposit upfront, not the whole amount.
2. you have 2-3 fittings, not one fitting then your suit arrived creased in a box.
3. The customer service is a lot better and trust of an Australian company.
My recomendation after trying several would be Germanicos Tailors http://www.Tailor.com.au I would say a very reasonable price, high quality of customer service, and the most amazing suitas I have ever had. I highly recomend you try them and I am sure you will have a pleasant experience, without been too harsh on the wallet.
Good Luck Justin
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Absolutely to be avoided. Got two suits from these guys having fallen prey to hardsell. And made the mistake of upgrading to expensive fabric. Paid a total of three thousand US dollars for the suits. Still a bargain compared with the Zegna suits in the boutiques down the street I thought. Boy, was I mistaken! These are suits put together in a sweatshop in China and then passed off as “tailored”. The stitching is terrible, the buttons are cheap, and I suspect the fabric is fake. And they will try to sell you more suits as you wait sipping Coca-Cola in the ratty backroom of their shop as dozens of Indian guys take a break from harassing tourists on the streets and the tailor shows-off his Bentley to valued customers. This operation is a typical Hong Kong “golden-mile” scam. And god-forbid you try to get your money back. They’ve got it all sewn up nicely.
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hi there,
why dont you go and try Himark Martin Tailors,I had a very good expeirence with them,their prices are very reasonable and the goods were delivered to me in no less than two weeks time as I requested them to make it rush.
I was worried they ll spoil my suit in hurry but luckily the suit fits perfect.I have recomended them to my law firm partners as well.They do visit Sydney qiute often.They generally have their showroom set up in a hotel room.
Do let me know if any of you have dealt with them.
Cheers
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Thanks Jonathan – it’s great when people take the time to write up real reviews to offset the corporate blah web message. I’m in Sydney and today I had a disappointing non-meeting with John Tellis of Germanicos (http://tailor.com.au) – he missed the fitting, and the other tailor had no clue re women’s suits (didn’t know the styles on offer, the pricing, nothing). I’ve also booked with Raja Fashions, and am going to print this page out to show them that I come forewarned! Will post back how that goes.
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I bought two suits in 2005. They fit reasonably well, but I would have fared just as well off the peg at between a half and a third the price. They purport to be in competition with the bespoke brigade, but the finish is anything but. Over time I have found corners of the suits where final stitching leaves much to be desired, and the buttons have not been adequately sewn on..to the extent that even those I don’t use (e.g. buttons to attach braces to trousers) come away of their own volition. The advertising is a little bit economical with the verite as well. The £169 suits are linen only (no wool in sight) and in colours that would make Max Miller blanche. The £325 one in medium weight British cloth turns out to be at least double that for a lightweight version in a presentable colour. There may be 20,000 swatches available in the hotel room where the fittings are made, but less than 20 of those would pass muster for anybody seeking a stylish suit.
I acknowledge I needn’t have purchased at the price, but it was only when the first suit arrived I began to see the difference between the spin and the reality. I fully accept that “caveat emptor” applies in spades, but once bitten twice shy. I won’t be back.
Saville Row may cost more, but they’re always close by, they pay attention to detail and they finish professionally…and they don’t send their carefully crafted products by post in a jiffy bag reinforced by yards of sellotape, necessitating months of pressing before the suit sits half right. Their shirts are inferior quality for the price as well. You will do better and cheaper with T M Lewin or Thomas Pink.
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Jonathan, your experience is very interesting. I went along to fitting day in the South West and was left very unimpressed with the service I was receiving. So much so, that I decided not to do business with them.
I was rushed to make a choice, there were no example suits, only swatches of cloth, no discussion of the type of cut I require.
Invariably the decent cloths were priced up accordingly and the lower end clothes just didn’t impress me. I’m quite suit-savvy and was looking for something very specific, but I was simply told our tailors will make a suit that looks good on you.
In your case it may have been better to go to Gieves and Hawkes. They do some lovely off the peg suits on Savile Row for around £600.
However, I’m currently looking at King and Allen, a UK bespoke suit company. I’ve heard good things about them.
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